Showing posts with label The Batcave. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Batcave. Show all posts

Wednesday, 6 September 2017

Batcave: the former legendary club

If subculture takes place, it is not possible to avoid the mention of the Batcave club, the Ollie Wisdom team operated in London, Soho.
England, the beginning of the eighties. A steamy, cool early evening in the entertainment district of the city, in the dark lights of lights and advertisements glitter. There is unemployment, nihil, insecurity, arrogance of ineffectiveness, escape from everyday life. Boots, boots and high heels are heard. A small group walks through the streets. Over-sized waistcoats, stretched sweaters, leather jackets, better-looking jackets, cheap tights and makeup, hairstyles for hairy shapes ... Young people are having fun.

Batcave was one of England's many clubs, which were popular meeting places for underground subcultures. Cheap drinks, dusty checkered flooring, carefully tapped walls, camouflage of the muddy plaster with different torn fabrics and nets, grids and cages, enthusiastic makeup in both men's and men's wards, and of course better ones ...
But what was it that highlighted among the other alternative clubs? Soho is packed with entertainment. Similarly, and similarly legendary, though much more elegant, for example, the new Romantic Blitz club (blitzkid named after the batcaver).
The specialty of Batcave might have been that he was not so elite that young people could not afford to give them space to fantasy, it was an opportunity to break away from the greed of everyday life, to rave a little, to experiment with fashion and music.

When the Bats Cave opened in 1982, it was far from the goal of creating a goth club. The main profile of the bowie cult glam rock and the new wave had some horror aftertaste, but the darker mood of the place soon subtracted the later decisive figures of the musical and cultural life of the nascent subculture. Among them were Siouxsie, Robert Smith, Marc Almond, Nick Cave, Danielle Dax, and Ausgang, Zor Gabor, Test Dept, Fetus, Bone Orchard, Zero Le Creche and Flesh For Lulu bands. Of course, the hosts' own band, Specimen, also often entertained the big-name.

We went to Batcave because they allowed me for free, the atmosphere was nice and friendly, good-looking people gathered down there. But music, that was horrible! This is all romance with death! Anyone who has been confronted with death may say that there is nothing romantic about it. "
Robert Smith, The Gloom Generation, 1997, Details Magazine

Nick Wade, who perhaps knew more than Nik Fiend, was at this time at the club. From here, friendship with Nick Cave, and here he began to break his wings together with Mrs. Fiend, a joint music project, so we can say that Alien Sex Fiend is a real Batcave band. As a foreign guest in 1984, Christian Death also respected, and Specimen also visited the States as a traveling traveling circus, they took Batcave's decoration and their modest performance, bringing the British and American subcultures closer. The club did not only tour abroad, but it was inside the Soh. she moved, but the mood and the name remained unchanged. Beside live music Dj Hamish (Hamish McDonald) was responsible for the mood, who also played guitar and sang in the Sexbeat band.
"There is a big difference between '77 punks and '83 pockets, Mick Jones (ed. The Clash) came down to Batcave and stood alone, he did not know where he was. The old puppets need the Pistols, the new ones have switched to Alien Sex Fiend, and although many goth bands can not be danced, they have the deep, tough bang. " 
" Batcave is attracting a chameleon-like company and you can see a rockabilly guy dancing with a goth girl. Various groups come together and listen to each other's music ... "
Hamish, The Face, 1984


But what about music in batcave? We are talking about a controversial topic, since batcave as a genre is a fairly delicate concept, as many people, as many views and opinions. The oldschool goth subculture has been bunched over many times, but it does not seem to be getting bored for so long.

Many people today are used as the synonym for deathrock, although they can be distinguished from both space and sound. The reason for this is that the deathrock scene, especially after the 2000s, is in many respects based on this English foundation (for example, Sex Gang Children, Alien Sex Fiend favorites), and strange modes are brought by fans of the deathrock genre they prefer to use the club logo.

I think it might be somewhat closer to the description of the English music of the era, usually in Batcave and similar pubs. It mainly covers new wave, post punk, melancholic or morbid punk, and positively punk (goth) performers.
During this period, the term goth was not widespread yet. Most people said they were punk or wavers. Siouxsie, Dave Vanian and many others, like punk, lived in the public domain, at first The Cure was also an alternative band running on UK top lists.

In the strict sense, however, only the gangs in Batcave use this term. For similar reasons many people use batcaver for the former visitors of the club, members of younger generations and others of similar interest in other countries are called oldschool goths or deathrockers.

However, it must be acknowledged that the Batcave club itself is largely due to the cultural and clothing aspect of the goth subculture, and the main musical influences have been largely out of the club, and the concerts of later bands will not have been achieved.
A lot of people gathered here, from the more fashionable punk to the new romance to the androgens and fetish fans who considered it a more tolerant place for wilder punk pubs.
"We do not have any dresscode or the like. After all, how do we decide that it's okay that we do not just because it looks like. " 
Ollie Wisdom, London Weekend Televison, 1983

Fashion, for example, thanks to the deathrockers' tattered pantyhose exterior to Specimen, the smocky jabs, strong makeup and pointed punch the appearance of blitzkids, the presence of chains, corsets, leather and rivets on the fetish medium, band t-shirts and painted coats for the punk ... Ideas and thoughts have circled in this varied medium and became a completely new concept that today as goth we know subculture.
"When we went out with Batcave last year, it became clear that people wanted to dance, not just sitting at the black candles in an" alternative "club. In small towns like Colne, we have found that they want to party, rave, but just modern music such as Cocteau Twins. It was very difficult to incorporate older glam rock as well. There are now Batcave evenings in Liverpool in Plane, Leicester in Belfry, Hacienda in Manchester ... "
Hamish, The Face, 1984

The club's organizers have already released a musical selection in 1983 under the name Young Limbs and Numb Hymns, similarly followed.

In the memory of the Batcave club, a booklet published in several books, including volumes of chronological photographs of the club's daily lives, staff, audiences, cabaret performances and concerts, have been released. Some of these recordings are also available on the Internet.
Accessed   http://deathrock.hu/batcavepast#page  © Copyright: Sage Noir 








Sunday, 18 June 2017

Goth Subculture: A HISTORY OF THE 80’S BATCAVE SCENE!

via Flashbak  

Did you ever visit London’s Batcave club? Opened in Soho in July 1982, the Batcave featured the likes of Bauhaus, The Meteors, Sex Gang Children, Virgin Prunes, Patti Palladin, Meat of Youth, Southern Death Cult, and Alien Sex Fiend. As one journalist puts it, Batcave was about individualism. It “defined the gothic attitude.”


EG8CA4 fans listening to the psychobilly band The Meteors at the Batcave in Soho 1982. Image shot 1982. Exact date unknown.

Run by Ollie Wisdom, lead singer in the house band Specimen, and Jon Klein as Art Director, visitors included such notables as Robert Smith, Siouxsie Sioux, Steve Severin, Foetus, Marc Almond and Nick Cave.

Valerie Siebert recalls:
Crude, spooky décor greeted the punters inside the venue. The walls were covered with torn bin liners stapled into place and cheesy black spiderwebs dangled from the ceiling. Then there was the clientele: free, jovial, experimenting regulars who had not a sniff of elitism about them. But something else was happening. At the bar Nik Fiend of Alien Sex Fiend could be seen chatting with Nick Cave while Marc Almond milled about the dance floor, watching Specimen play live.
Membership card for the Batcave nightclub, 69-70 Dean Street, London (1982) Via
Nik Fiend, of Alien Sex fiend, tells her:
“We had read about the opening of The Batcave Club in Time Out’s listings in July 1982. I was intrigued to read about a club that sounded somewhat different… But that summer we were busy with the beginnings of Alien Sex Fiend – we were recording demos, doing artwork, and all that. From those demos I made a cassette tape that got a review in Melody Maker, describing us as ‘The ugliest thing in the name of music…’ amongst other things! The next thing the phone rang and it was Olli Wisdom, who said: ‘You sound like the sort of band we want to play at The Batcave’.“
Mrs Fiend has more:
‘So Nik and I were invited to check out the venue at its first incarnation at The Gargoyle Club in Soho,’ says Mrs. Fiend. ‘It was raining and there was a big queue outside, but we were ushered straight into the tiny lift that went up to the club.”
“The lift would only fit in two people at a time, it was quite a ride up and we had no idea what was going to greet us at the top,” says Nik. “The door opened and then there was a coffin shaped doorframe which you had to pass through. It was a real coffin with the bottom knocked out, so we knew at that point that there was something different going on!”
Or maybe something a little familiar to older Londoners who frequented Soho’s Le Macabre Club, where the tables were coffin lids and the jukebox only had songs to do with death?
Mr Fiend: “But what made the biggest impression on us. was when they put on a Sex Pistols track.”
Nik: “The dancefloor cleared! en masse! We took it as a sign that people there had started moving on from punk and were looking for something different, something new.”




“In contrast to the battle lines later drawn between teen tribes, it didn’t really matter what you looked like: the club operated with an open-door policy, and welcomed anyone who sought a space to state their difference from the everyday… The do-it-yourself dynamic of the Batcavers’ style, finally, reconciled the tension between fitting in and standing out.” – Claire Marie Healy.
Was it all moody and dark? Olli Wisdom told one reporter in 1983:
“It’s the people that make the atmosphere. It’s not ‘Suck your cheeks in and pose in the corner’. It’s very friendly. Basically, it’s about fun. It’s about having your tongue firmly in your cheek and being able to laugh at the realities of the day-to-day existence.”



If you want to grab a sound of the scene, try the 1983 album The Batcave: Young Limbs And Numb Hymns. The inside notes tell us:
“Look past the slow black rain of a chill night in Soho; Ignore the lures of a thousand neon fire-flies, fall deft to the sighs of street corner sirens — come walk with me between heaven and hell. Here there is a club lost in its own feverish limbo, where sin becomes salvation and only the dark angels tread. For here is a BATCAVE. This screaming legend of blasphemy, Lechery, and Blood persists in the face of adversity. For some the Batcave has become an icon, but for those that know it is an iconoclast, it is the avenging spirit of nightlife’s badlands — its shadow looms large over London’s demi-Monde: It is a challenge to the false Idol. It Will Endure.”

The club was influential in that anyone could come to the Batcave and have a great time – no one was rejected at the door (unlike the exclusivity and pretensions of the Blitz Club). Weirdos and freaks danced together without judgement in the spider web and fog machine filled cavern. Because of its importance to the scene, the Batcave eventually became its own musical style and ignited the first flickering of early goth. – Andi Harriman

So if did go to Batcave, you’ll get a kick out of this 1983 report from the now defunct London Weekend Television. You might recognise yourself or some other faces. If you didn’t go, this is what you missed  – and what mum and dad got up to:
The report features Welsh miner Glyn Jones and his son, a Batcave regular:
“The first time he comes home, I don’t recognize him. I was repulsed by it. He’d been up in London about a fortnight, and he came home one day with his hair blond, and makeup all over his face, and he took one step in front of the door. I caught him by the throat, and I said, ‘If you ever come home to Ynysybwl, leave your makeup in London where you can wear it, but down here you just don’t do that sort of thing.’ The youngsters up there, you know, you live in a different type of world than we do, simple as that.”
“Where do young people go in the dark hours of the London night?

Wednesday, 1 March 2017

Thursday, 9 June 2016

Goth Subculture - The Batcave takes over Danceteria on Friday the 13th, May 1983

The Batcave takes over Danceteria on Friday the 13th, May 1983



Thoroughly nasty and a raging success.
“We’re not trying to be nice” (host Oliver Wisdom),
“Fuck off, I don’t need your magazine” (Siouxsie),
“Give us 10p mate and you can take my photo” (guy in gents)

The queue slithered for miles, stud-linked vein of black, leathered and speared, bleached heads that shuttled relentlessly along Meard Street in the rain. All intent on reaching the buzzing electric glow that was the gateway to A Batcave. A scene casting shadows of Dante’s Inferno. But the long wait added to the awe of this dark dominion. 
– excerpts from the Danceteria flyer for “The Batcave Club in NYC”



Danceteria’s 2-page Batcave flyer. From http://lundissimo.info/
Exactly 33 years ago to the day – and also a Friday the 13th – London’s cesspool of glam-camp-androgynous-horror type post-punk scene invaded NYC’s own 6-floor counterculture club, Danceteria on 21st street. The Batcave, which was opened and operated by Specimen singer Olli Wisdom in June of 1982, transformed the dark movement in the late 70s and early 80s into a trashy, less-serious version of Bauhaus’ and Siouxsie and the Banshees’ vampirish aesthetic. The club was influential in that anyone could come to the Batcave and have a great time – no one was rejected at the door (unlike the exclusivity and pretensions of the Blitz Club). Weirdos and freaks danced together without judgement in the spider web and fog machine filled cavern. Because of its importance to the scene, the Batcave eventually became its own musical style and ignited the first flickering of early goth.

Danceteria was no different in its influence with a burgeoning community of artists and musicians in New York City who fed off each other’s energy and creativity. And in less than a year of the Batcave’s opening, Olli Wisdom and Specimen brought the party to NYC – a brilliant merging of two fashionable, experimental and artistic scenes. And on Friday the 13th of May, Specimen shared the bill with an oft overlooked and under appreciated band: Sexbeat. Luckily, there is footage of Sexbeat’s concert, a 10 minute video of the band performing the songs “Pump” and “Cheshire Cat” to an audience.

Sadly, there is little information on Sexbeat – there’s even less video and photography to document the band’s history in the early 80s. However, their track “Sexbeat” became an anthem for the Batcave community and is also a standard at most proper goth nights nowadays (it also inspired the title for my own book, Some Wear Leather, Some Wear Lace). Found on the 1983 Batcave compilation release Young Limbs and Numb Hymns, “Sexbeat” is the takeaway track on the album – an energetic song about the diverse scene that still rings true today.
Sexbeat never made a penny off it.

Sexbeat singer and guitarist Hamish MacDonald was also the Batcave’s resident DJ. During the Batcave’s takeover of Danceteria, he shared the decks with one of NYC’s most influential DJs, Anita Sarko (who sadly passed away just last year). I was lucky enough to witness DJ Hamish’s set a couple years ago. It was a skillful construction of early 80s post-punk and electronic music – he’s a true talent with an endless catalogue of dance floor tracks. (One can only imagine what it was like to hear his set in the original Batcave.)
Below is the Danceteria footage of Sexbeat 33 years ago today with cameos from Specimen (hello, Johnny Slut!) in the first minute of the video.


Accessed  9/6/2016 http://lethalamounts.com
http://lethalamounts.com/2016/05/13/batcave-danceteria/

Take  a look at at the Fan page for nowthisisgothic.tumblr.com - A photoblog with a collection of 1980s goths, wavers and (post)punk.

Sunday, 1 November 2015

Goth Subculture - The Batcave | Documentaries and more on the original Goth club







Back in 1982, the original Goth club opened over at Soho in London (most notably at Gossips located on 69 Dean St) This was a club organized by the members of the dark and glamorous Specimen, and featured Dj’s such as Hamish Macdonald with his project Sexbeat, and Anni Hogan, who would become a long time collaborator with Marc Almond, who was also a regular attendee.


In fact, this was a club attended by nearly every Post-Punk musician in London at the time, such as Robert Smith of The Cure, members Siouxsie and The Banshees (Note that Steven Severin and Robert Smith wrote music for Marc Almond and Anni Hogan’s project Marc and the Mambas, this, along with The Glove was surely a collaboration inspired by hanging out at The Batcave), Nick Cave, Nik Fiend (Alien Sex Fiend), Andi Sex Gang (Sex Gang Children), Ian Astbury of Southern Death Cult—they all haunted this club. The Batcave was the place to be, and the highly stylized dark glamour of the attendee’s went on to define what would be considered the “Gothic” subculture, even connecting with bands in Los Angeles, such as Christian Death, and with the legendary Danceteria nightclub in New York.